Zray interview: Don't take yourself too seriously.

The TV series "Insider" has been officially announced for a long time, and it has finally started broadcasting recently. Zray and Pan Yueming, two recognized powerful actors, play a pair of brothers who love each other and kill each other. They felt online as soon as they were established, and it was really attractive. However, the audience who come with the expectation of entertaining the poor by watching Remnant Sin and Hu Bayi will be disappointed. In the play, the two brothers are cold and cool brothers, fighting wits and playing with their eyes. Every day, they are where will you go, without any comedy elements.

"Insider" stills, Zray plays Shen Fang.

Zray himself admits, "This role is really different from my own personality and the role I played in the past." He said that actors want to play some roles that they have never been exposed to. Fresh and fun is more interesting and challenging. But there are also difficulties. Shen Fang and Shen Ling, the two brothers, are both deserted and few words. "Not so interesting in other ways. I am afraid that the role will be dull and the audience may sometimes feel bored. " He believes that acting is ultimately for the audience and makes the audience like it. This is the greatest goal and the will of the creator.

Zray frankly admired Pan Yueming. "When I learned that Pan Yueming was my brother's teacher, I was very happy. I can really learn a lot from him in the process of filming, and we have many opponents. The emotional relationship in the play is very tense In fact, it is quite enjoyable. " He recalled that when filming, every time he finished filming a very expressive scene with Pan Yueming, he was so happy that he went back to sleep at night. "As an actor, this is the greatest satisfaction and gain. Nothing makes you feel happier than watching a well-expressed and comfortable play. "

Zray, Pan Yueming.

Zray replied, "Yes, I'm not young either." At this time, we may realize that the former "Liu Xing" is now nearly 30 years old.

Zray's calligraphy, "diligence".

When Zray was first remembered by people all over the country, he was only 10 years old. Born not afraid of the camera, he interpreted the mischievous Liu Xing, who is deeply rooted in the hearts of the people, in "Family with Children". But child stars have grown up, and not many of them have developed well in this circle. Zray hardly filmed in college. "Everyone basically forgot me, and then they all doubted me. Many people have defined me, saying that I can't be popular any more, and it is impossible for anyone to find me again. I have seen all kinds of news and heard all kinds of voices. "

"Said the in the mind uncomfortable, certainly deceive people, is that people have secular desires have feelings. But I didn't take it seriously. Maybe I am stronger than I am now, because I was ignorant and fearless at that time. " When I was young, I didn't pay much attention to some external voices, and I didn't realize what those external voices meant. On the contrary, I became very lucky. When you grow up, face the eyes and words of others, anchor your position, or recognize yourself. "I know my position in the family, my significance in society and my position in others' hearts. You know a lot, and you may despise the good and bad views of the outside world, but you will be very tired in the process of knowing these. But it must be experienced. "

Screenshot of "Remaining Crime"

Zray has been silent for many years. A few years ago, his acting skills were widely recognized because of the amazing return of a remnant crime. And then all kinds of activities, all kinds of people came to me, "Let you do something different, maybe some things will deviate from your career as an actor, and you will have different feelings, and then you don't know if this is good or not, but you still have to get involved, because no one has the ability to change the world, so just change yourself with everyone." He said simply.

Unlike many of his peers, he does not shy away from the topic of "catering to the audience". "As a film and television worker, I still firmly believe that everything we do is for the audience. Whether it's a movie or a TV series, what do you want in the end? You want the audience to see it. Of course you hope they like it. If you want them to like it, don't pretend, you should try to think, what do they like? This is your ultimate goal. "

have a conversation

The performance was enjoyable.

Paper: spy war drama has formed a special narrative style for a long time, even character routines and performance routines. Do you think you will try to avoid some routines in the creative process?

I can't help it. Because of the spy war drama, you will definitely have some investigations, counter-investigations, stalking and anti-stalking. Everyone knows these tricks and has used them. Now the audience has good taste and has seen it. Moreover, the audience is also smart and won't say that he buried a line casually. If he knows a clue, he will be very good.

What I understand is that this drama may make a breakthrough in the performance state, and the director may be closer to the characters' hearts and emotions in presentation, which will amplify some people's characteristics. In performance and director's expression, we pay more attention to human nature.

Paper: When do you think you and Shen Fang reached the * * * sound or * * * feeling? Is there any scene that makes you feel particularly able to understand this role?

Zray: Actually, when I first read the script, at the beginning of the first episode, I could fully feel what kind of person he was. He wanted to protect his comrades, but he watched his comrades die to protect him. He's in pain. He carried on with physical and mental pain. I think this man has taken on a lot of responsibilities. He represented many soldiers with faith and belief at that time. This actually infected me and burned me.

Newspaper: There are quite a lot of action scenes and explosion scenes in The Player. It seems that you can't watch too many hardcore action scenes in your previous works, including the remaining crimes.

Yes Maybe my image and figure were limited before. I can't play the hero, but I can play the nobody. Little people don't have very powerful action scenes, do they? There is a stumbling, a rookie. This time as an agent, a soldier of a higher level must have action elements and scenes, and now the taste of the audience is also high. You have to give some factors to interest the audience, so this time it is relatively more.

Paper: According to your meaning, I feel that this creation should be more enjoyable as a whole. Looking back now, do you think there are still some regrets?

Zray: When I am acting, I will give the director a different version, every time. Sometimes a scene has passed and I hope to do it again. I can express this scene in another way. Almost every scene is not special. It's not that I can't control every scene in place, but I hope I can give more things to the editing table to make more room for later selection.

In fact, during the filming of this drama, the cooperation between our main creators is very pleasant, and everyone will ponder it together. Is this a good expression? Is this a good expression? Everyone gave several more plans, filmed them and gave them to post-production, but in the end there was only one plan for the audience to see. Which one should we use? Of course, there will be cases where you think good expressions are useless, but strictly speaking, it is not a pity. Performance is a matter of feeling, which is related to the daily psychological and physical conditions of the actors themselves. It is impossible to say that sometimes playing makes others feel particularly good, and sometimes playing makes people feel very bad. This thing can't measure whether it is a pity.

Thesis: For the audience, it is often very simple to judge the quality of a performance. But what you mean is that it's actually difficult to simply judge whether a performance is good or bad, because there are too many situations and too many ways to perform, right?

Zray: Yes, because we have different performances and different programs, and different audiences have different tastes. No actor can make every play and every performance state recognized by every audience and feel that he has done a good job. This is impossible. Some people's aesthetics are like that, some people like flowers, some people like trees, and their expression, understanding and acceptance of art are different. It is impossible for every work to make everyone feel good. I can only say that I perceive what most audiences like and then cater to the tastes of more of them, but then again, performance is not catering, and you also have your own aesthetic expression and professional expression, so this is very contradictory. Sometimes I am too self-centered, and I feel that my aesthetics are the right and my performance is the right. Then many viewers will not buy it, and you can't help it. Therefore, there is no saying that you can have the best of both worlds, so you can only explore. But because I have made some plays before, the audience still liked them, so I was told that my aesthetics are similar to that of most audiences, so I am very happy, that is to say, acting according to my own ideas should be acceptable to the audience.

Paper: What I find interesting about you is that many creators are disgusted with the word "catering", but you are not shy at all. I want to hear your views on "catering to" the audience. Why can you be so calm?

I think so. To put it further, everyone has his own work and life in his own post, right? We say that a person is too ego and personality, and people around him will think that he is out of place, right? No matter at work or in life, facing the family and the outside world, you should have 50% time to cater to each other, so that the relationship between people can be harmonious and you can achieve a balance. If you are too self-centered, you may be an unattractive person in your social circle.

When it comes to art, the same is true. If you always think you are the right person, the audience thinks you are boring, and your work is boring, it is definitely not the audience's problem, it is your problem. As a film and television worker, I still believe that everything we do is for the audience. Whether it's a movie or a TV series, what do you want in the end? You want the audience to see it. Of course you hope they like it. If you want them to like it, don't pretend, you should try to think, what do they like? This is your ultimate goal. Some people think that of course I want to shoot something that everyone likes, but I think I am right. No one can change me, so I feel good. I am an artist. I think this idea is a bit too one-sided. Still have to think of others, not only our profession, but people in all professions should have such a mentality in their lives and work, so that the society can be balanced and harmonious and what you do can be welcomed by others. So it's not that I deliberately cater to it, but that you should think of others in everything you do.

Paper: In this story, there are several female characters around Shen Fang, and different emotional treatment of different female characters is also an important part of characterization. Do you find it difficult to play this song?

Yes, when I got the script, first of all, I had a lot of discussions with the director about the status of the role. Another most important question is, how should Shen Fang get along with these three women with different backgrounds and personalities? How to present it to the audience? How can the audience clearly understand Shen Fang's views on these three women? What role did they play in Shen's Peace of Mind? This is a lot of issues that I have discussed with the director. Even when filming, sometimes I still struggle. This is really a problem that I find difficult in this play and have been thinking about.

These three women play an indelible role in Shen Fang's story, but if you enlarge your love for each woman and let the audience see it, the audience may think that this man is a playboy, right? But if you are polite to every woman and have no chemical reaction, the audience will think you are fake and pretentious. Therefore, being measured is a very difficult thing. Too much is wrong, too little is not enough, and it is impossible to express the inner state and entanglement of the characters at the moment, and the audience will be bored. Therefore, this aspect is my biggest headache. When I am acting with every woman, I have to start sorting out my situation and mood half an hour before acting, and stroke the role line again from the beginning. Yesterday, from the first shot to the last shot, I had to think about this woman's story and feelings. I was afraid that I was not sure whether I handled it properly or not, which would lead to complete deviation.

Don't brag, do things in a down-to-earth manner.

Paper: Perhaps the audience's surprise for this drama is to see the other side of Zray besides comedy performance, because for many people, you are an actor who is naturally good at comedy rhythm. Which performance may be more difficult for you, comedy or so-called drama?

In fact, many people are familiar with my comedy performances, or because I have children at home. That's when I began to understand. The performance I knew at that time was not a performance, not a deliberate performance, but a presentation of this person's life to the audience. At that time, I only accepted the rhythm and working state of comedy performance. The actors I met at that time, like Aunt Song Dandan, were all comic geniuses. I have been influenced by that performance since I was a child, and whatever you do will interest the audience, so I didn't have any pressure on comedy performance at that time, including that I still have a lot of skills or performance status, which was accumulated at that time and learned from adults, which can't be erased.

In fact, I have acted in some plays and the audience can accept it. But in the scenes I shot before, there are more or less elements of light comedy, or some scenes, or some expressions, which I hope to add. Because I still hope that the audience will be happy to watch my play. Under the premise of not hurting the theme, characters and stories, it makes the audience feel more relaxed and easier to accept.

The play "The Man in the Bureau" is a time drama, an era of fighting and a special identity, so it can only be presented in a completely different way, but it is also an opportunity for me to explore.

Thesis: Has the reason why you like acting changed since the filming of Children at Home?

Newspaper: Since you started to be an actor, has your understanding of this industry and yourself changed?

Zray: Personally, I used to think that this circle was shining and all of them were big stars, so the idea was simple. In fact, when you graduated from college, you didn't really enter this circle. I really feel that I entered this circle after the broadcast of Remaining Sin, and I was interviewed by many media, invited by many magazines and asked by many programs.

"Liu Xing" emoticon pack on Zray Weibo

I'm not a person who has to be what I want or what I have to be. You can't go with the flow, but sometimes you can't control too much, you can only change yourself. In fact, I am not a person with special ideas, but sometimes I may think differently from others. I think the most important thing is to keep a low profile and not take yourself too seriously. Every industry has many rising stars every year, and there are many people who are better than me and younger than me. You don't feel how good you are, do you? If you set yourself too high, then you are going downhill every step. How humiliating it is, you can't bear it in your heart. Therefore, it is even more difficult to brag and do things in a down-to-earth manner.

Proofreading: Shi Yan

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