(Urgent request) Debate competition: How to argue that beauty exists objectively? (Don’t use the 1999 International College Debate)

Selected highlights of the '99 International College Debate. September 15, 1999 13:37 Chinese youth report: Is beauty an objective existence or a subjective feeling? Pro: University of Malaya - Beauty is an objective existence. Opposition : Xi'an Jiaotong University--Beauty is a subjective feeling Chen Ruihua (first argument of the affirmative): Hello everyone! In the end, is it the objectively existing beauty that determines people’s feelings about beauty? Or does human subjective feeling create beauty? If we say that beauty exists subjectively, then it means that its existence today is completely determined by individual subjective consciousness. But what we want to tell you today is that the existence of beauty has its certain laws, and it is with this unchanging law that Therefore, the existence of beauty does not change based on personal subjective will. This is our point of view. Beauty exists objectively. Beauty is the quality of a thing or behavior. It has three characteristics: first, image, second, appeal, and third, utilitarian. Imageability means that for a thing to display its beauty, it must have a specific image or form; secondly, it must also be infectious, allowing people to arouse their own feelings of joy or love; thirdly, It is utilitarian and can give people spiritual and material benefits. Since the existence of beauty must be measured by these three characteristics, an objective law is produced. And since it must be measured by this objective law, how can the other party say that this is a subjective feeling! In addition, the three characteristics of beauty are also independent of human subjective thoughts. People's subjective feelings cannot change the laws of these three characteristics. In the process of appreciation, the relationship between the subject and the object can only be the process of feeling and being felt. It is the beauty of people that is caused by the objectively existing beauty, not the people. The beauty creates the beauty of objective things. Beauty does not change based on the individual subjective thoughts of the appreciator. If there is no objective standard of beauty and we use personal subjective preferences as the standard, then hundreds of people have hundreds of standards. What is the difference between this and no standard? If beauty is a subjective feeling, then I don’t understand. Wouldn’t the great goals of truth, goodness, and beauty that humans have always pursued be completely meaningless? Because they vary from person to person and change at any time! The French esthetician Dickros told us that no matter whether there are people or not, the beauty of the Louvre will not be lost because of this! Thank you all! Fan Deng (first argument from the opposing side): Hello everyone! Why did the other classmate forget that Rodin once said that in the eyes of an artist, there is nothing in this world that is not beautiful. And does something subjective mean that anyone can change it at will? Doesn’t subjectivity have universality and we can’t advocate and cultivate it? What the other classmate has always emphasized today is that beauty requires an objective material basis. This is not contradictory to us at all. What kind of subjective feeling can exist without an objective material basis? We believe that beauty is the spiritual pleasure caused by emotional imagination activities. It requires feeling and existence to be felt in the soul. If beauty exists objectively, like this table, we don’t need to “feel” or “know” at all. , just "see", which is convenient! It’s just that what we see will be the same beauty, because beauty exists objectively, so as long as everyone’s eyesight is similar, their understanding of beauty should be the same! If this is the case, there are some problems that are difficult to explain. Why do we continue to communicate our feelings about art, painting, music, and debate? Why can't people always reach a tacit understanding on some issues? In this case, what the other party needs to explain is why Mona Lisa's smile has made us guess for centuries? In fact, the philosopher Hume has long explained: Beauty has never been an objective attribute of matter, and there is no objective standard at all. This point also secretly echoes Chinese traditional culture. So when we talk about the national flag and the national flower, we think they are the most beautiful; so when we cross the Three Gorges, what we see is not the mountains, but the women waiting for the return of their husbands; so when we see the Yellow River, we can feel the mother-like feelings. Chairman (Zhang Zequn): Now is the time for the free man to speak. Tan Qi (opposition free agent): Hello everyone! Do the ghosts in "Strange Stories from a Chinese Studio" have images? have. Is it contagious? have. Is it utilitarian? have. It can be used to scare children, but do ghosts exist objectively? Hu Jianbiao (free man from the square): Hello everyone! Let’s start with the first attack made by the opposing debater against us: The opposing debater said that our point of view is based on beauty and is based on material foundation, which is wrong. We do not have this concept. This is entirely an error in speculation by the other party's fellow debaters. There is an off-topic error in the opponent's position. What the opponent is talking about is not beauty, but the feeling of beauty. For example, we all know that needles are pointed, but the point of the needle and the feeling of the needle pricking into the hand are completely different concepts. We know that the tip of a needle exists in the objective world, but the feeling of acupuncture is a subjective feeling. The two are completely different. Just as the other debater said, there is nothing that is not beautiful today. We also admit that the characteristics of beauty exist in everything. Why are there different feelings of beauty? Quite simply, this is because the characteristics of beauty are diverse. If you look at beauty from different angles, you will get different feelings of beauty. However, please note that the feeling of beauty is completely different from the beauty itself. Chairman: Now comes the cross-examination session.

Guo Yukuan (opposition second debate): The other student said that beauty is not equal to the feeling of beauty. I would like to ask the other side the first debate, can beauty exist apart from human feelings? If possible, please give an example. Chen Ruihua: Of course beauty can exist apart from human feelings. A flower exists in the objective world, but can we say that a flower is a feeling? Is the beauty of flowers a matter of feeling? Guo Yukuan: I want to ask the other party for a second argument: Since beauty can be felt, and not being able to feel it does not mean that it is not beautiful, then for things like electromagnetic fields that cannot be intuitively felt, is it beautiful or not? Zheng Yu? (Second argument of the affirmative): Whether beauty is beautiful or not depends on whether it exists in something, but whether we can feel beauty or not depends on our subjective feeling. My fellow debater just mentioned the electromagnetic field. If the electromagnetic field itself has the qualities of beauty, can emit the qualities of beauty, and can affect and infect people, then it will make people feel beautiful. If the quality of beauty is not in the electromagnetic field, we cannot feel its beauty. Guo Yukuan: Let me ask you three questions: When the standards of beauty in society are not unified, what standards do you use to determine your aesthetic orientation? He Xiaowei (Part Three): If a thing has the characteristics of beauty, it can exert its beauty and let people decide whether it is beautiful or not. However, when we say it is not beautiful, this is a subjective judgment, but in fact beauty exists objectively. Chairman: Now let’s ask the second defender of the affirmative side to ask questions to the negative side. Zheng Yu?: I would like to ask the other party whether beauty is an object that can be studied? Fan Deng: Of course beauty is an object that can be studied, otherwise what would we be standing here debating? According to the other party, when there is no one around, you can also say that something is beautiful. Then I would like to ask, if a flower is very beautiful, no one will appreciate it. Instead, a puppy walks to the flower. What kind of feeling does it have in front of the flower? If the flower has a bit of fragrance, it might bite the flower off in one bite. At this time, how will the puppy know whether the flower is beautiful or not? Zheng Yu?: I would like to ask the other side, will the inner beauty radiated by an honest person change at will due to your subjective changes? Guo Yukuan: First of all, we said that beauty and kindness are not concepts yet, so the concept proposed by the other party has some slight deviations. Beauty is the feeling in our souls. On this point, individuals have different perspectives. Zheng Yuxi: Please ask the other party for three arguments: Am I beautiful? Lu Yiming (anti-party’s third argument): The other party’s second argument is very beautiful, but this only represents my personal opinion. Does anyone say that the other party’s second argument is not beautiful? If someone dares to say that the other party's second argument is not good, are we going to step on thousands of feet so that he will never be able to stand up? If the standard of beauty is objective, then why do you need to ask me, are you beautiful? You just need to use objective standards of beauty to measure it. Why bother asking everyone if you are beautiful? Chairman: What follows is a summary of the cross-examination. Guo Yukuan: In my first question, I said that if a flower is placed there, even if you don’t feel it, it is beautiful. Is this correct? Don't rush. In my second question, the other debater has told us that the electromagnetic field does not have the characteristics of beauty. Why does the electromagnetic field not have the characteristics of beauty? Because people cannot feel it intuitively. Once people cannot intuitively feel something, it will no longer have the characteristics of beauty. Doesn’t this mean that beauty cannot exist apart from people’s subjective feelings? So now looking back at the first question, why did the other debater say that the flower was beautiful? It's because even if he didn't feel it intuitively, someone would feel it intuitively and convey this feeling of beauty to her. It's like someone bought something as a gift and gave it to his friend. Is it because he didn't pay for it? My own pocket, just tell everyone that it is possible to buy things without spending money in this world? Regarding my third question, the other classmate told us that beauty is an objective thing and everyone should hold to a unified standard. Is this really the case? Andy Lau's dream girl has long, shiny black hair, but my dream girl has short, shiny black hair. How can we make them the same? Chairman: Now, please give the second defense of the affirmative a summary of the cross-examination. Zheng Yu?: Just now I asked the other party whether beauty is an object that can be studied? The other classmate has admitted that beauty can be studied. Doesn’t this prove to us that beauty is an objective existence? If beauty is not an objective existence, what else is there to study? If the other party says that beauty is a subjective feeling, then what is the subjective feeling? It is an idea that exists in the other party's subjective consciousness. If the other party says that it is a subjective feeling and can be studied, does the other party want to tell me that he can study his own feelings? That's not called aesthetics, that's called psychology. The other party’s second argument also replied that beauty is not the same as goodness, so I was surprised, why can’t inner beauty be beauty? Can’t the influence and sensibility brought about by kindness and honesty be a kind of beauty? When the other party says this, does it mean to tell us that external beauty is beauty, but internal beauty is not beauty? Aristotle tells us that goodness and beauty are unified! And the other party said that I am beautiful, I want to thank him. But the other party said again in the third debate that if the audience thinks that I am not beautiful, then they will curse me! That's not necessary. Beauty and ugliness are different subjective standards of measurement, but that doesn't mean that when the other person thinks I'm ugly, my face will immediately become hideous. Because I'm still me, I'm still standing here, it's just from a different perspective. Chairman: The following is a dialogue between free men.

Hu Jianbiao: The other debater believes that beauty is a subjective feeling. So, if a pearl is hidden deep in a clam shell at the bottom of the sea, is the roundness and smoothness of this pearl beautiful or not? Tan Qi: Some people think that pearls are beautiful, but some people think that pearls are not beautiful. As early as ancient China, there was a case of buying a casket for a pearl. Can you tell me, is it necessarily wrong for someone to buy a casket for a pearl? Hu Jianbiao: What the other debater said is nothing more than telling us that the background of this pearl is somewhat different, but there is no way to deny that this pearl has beautiful properties. We admit that some people think pearls are not beautiful. Why? Because a substance has both beautiful and ugly characteristics, some people think it is beautiful because they see its beautiful characteristics, but their perspectives are different. Don’t confuse the feelings of beauty and beauty. ... Hu Jianbiao: I would like to ask, if beauty is a subjective feeling, then even foreigners who do not understand Chinese know that the Anthology of Tang Poems is a beautiful work in the history of Chinese literature. According to you, this Anthology of Tang Poems is a beautiful work in the history of Chinese literature. China is beautiful, but wouldn’t it be beautiful if it were placed abroad? Tan Qi: If we don’t study Tang poetry, how can we radiate a love for this beautiful culture like Tang poetry? Let me ask my fellow debater, do you think mermaids are beautiful? Hu Jianbiao: Well said. But I would like to ask everyone, for foreigners, is Tang poetry beautiful or not? Tan Qi: You didn’t answer my question, are mermaids beautiful? Hu Jianbiao: Everyone has their own opinions on whether mermaids are beautiful or not. The reason is that everyone has different viewing angles. It is not that the feelings of beauty and beauty can be confused. Now it is your turn to answer my question about Tang poetry. Tan Qi: I have told you that the beauty of Tang poetry itself exists objectively, but some people like Tang poetry and some people like Song lyrics. Is there a right or wrong way to like this? You said that some people think mermaids are beautiful, while others think they are ugly. But mermaids are fictional characters in mythology. Are mermaids an objective existence? Hu Jianbiao: My fellow debater has digressed. My question is, is Tang poetry still beautiful when it is in the hands of foreigners? Can you tell me how the beauty of Song poetry is directly related to my problem? Tan Qi: Because some people like Song poetry but not Tang poetry. He cannot appreciate Tang poetry and feels that Tang poetry is not beautiful. Can you tell me, is it wrong for him to like Song poetry? Some people like mermaids, and some people like Snow White. They are all characters in fairy tales. They are beautiful, but they are also fictional. Can you tell me, where does beauty come from if it is objective? Hu Jianbiao: Today, the image of the mermaid has been painted and even turned into a statue. As for why they are beautiful and ugly, it is due to different viewing angles. Okay, let’s not talk about Tang poetry. Let’s talk about Zhao Zilong’s loyalty and bravery. Even if Cao Cao doesn't agree with it, it is still an expression of inner beauty. Are you telling me that his inner beauty is not beautiful? Tan Qi: Zhao Zilong’s beauty is kindness, kindness is due to morality, and morality can affect subjective feelings. But it cannot be said that if you affect his subjective feelings, the subjective feelings will become objective. Chairman: Let’s start the free debate. ... He Xiaowei: Thank you for telling us that aesthetics is a subjective judgment. Our debate today is about the form in which beauty exists, not whether aesthetics is a subjective judgment or an objective existence. I would like to ask you, Yue Fei sacrificed his life for the country, so was his behavior beautiful? Fan Deng: My fellow debaters have been talking about the relationship between goodness and beauty. Confucius once said, "Beauty is beautiful, but goodness is not perfect." Beauty and goodness are not the same relationship at all. Zheng Yuxi: My fellow debater just said that it was wrong for the audience to say that I am not beautiful, but I did not say that. If someone thinks I'm not beautiful, then they have a different aesthetic perspective. If you think I'm beautiful, you've discovered my beauty from another angle. But this does not mean that if someone thinks I am ugly, my face will immediately turn into that of a dominatrix. Guo Yukuan: Let’s move today’s debate away from the opponent’s classmates’ faces and back to the discussion of beauty. The other classmate said that the discussion of beauty should be divided into angles, so why? From another angle, it is the beauty of Tang poetry, and from another angle, it is the beauty of Song poetry. If beauty was as objective as height, it would be impossible to change the angle and my height would be higher than Jordan's! Chen Ruihua: An object has both beautiful and ugly characteristics. Of course you can see different characteristics when you look at it from different angles. I would like to ask the other classmate, is kindness the inner beauty? ... Guo Yukuan: The other classmate said that kindness is a kind of beauty, but what do we know about objective existence? Not surviving for Yao, not dying for Jie, this is objective existence.

What is goodness? It is originally man’s subjective will. Isn’t this based on man’s subjective will? He Xiaowei: But Aristotle tells us that beauty is the unity of truth and goodness. Should the other party question it? Does the other party want to say that beauty is the unity of untruth and unkindness? Lu Yiming: If beauty is the unity of truth and goodness, if truth and goodness are originally one, then why is there an idiom now called "perfection"? Why do we still talk about the pursuit of truth, goodness and beauty? Why not say the pursuit of truth, goodness and goodness? Zheng Yu?: Does the other debater want to tell us that goodness does not exist objectively? Do you think that robbing is also a kind of kindness, and the beauty of the behavior can be changed at will based on your subjective consciousness? ...Lu Yiming: Even if we admit that kindness is also inner beauty, then please ask the other debater to tell us, is kindness a subjective feeling or an objective existence? Zheng Yu?: How can the other party say that kindness is a subjective feeling? Are you going to tell me that helping an old woman cross the road when you are subjectively feeling bad does that mean it is a bad act? Fan Deng: Let’s talk about an example, shall we? Why are the same willows, in Li Bai's words, "the wind blows the willow flowers and fill the palace with fragrance", but when it comes to Zheng Gu, it is "the willows are sad and sad for people crossing the river". Why is this? He Xiaowei: No matter what kind of vision they use to appreciate the willow, a willow is a willow after all. The other party can say that because many philosophers have different understandings of space, then the Milky Way is no longer beautiful? Lu Yiming: Willows are always willows, but have you ever said that the beauty of willows is always the beauty of willows? My fellow debater, are you arguing for objective existence or objective beauty? Chen Ruihua: Even if we do not specifically discuss the beauty of willows, does the beauty of willows cease to exist because of this? Guo Yukuan: Willow is because people appreciate it, and people’s subjective emotions are invested in it. This is beauty, and this is the meaning of aesthetics. If it is always beautiful, then why should we appreciate it! Zheng Yuxi: The beauty of willows exists objectively. Otherwise, the other debater will tell us that because we do not feel the beauty of willows, then the beauty of willows and the beauty of nature will not exist? So are we living in an illusory world? ... Zheng Yu?: So let me ask my fellow debater, does the beauty of the Great Wall exist? Lu Yiming: My fellow debater, please explain to us, what is the beauty of the Great Wall? Chen Ruihua: We are asking about the beauty of the Great Wall! Does anyone say that the beauty of the Great Wall is just for petty people? Guo Yukuan: The beauty of the Great Wall is very beautiful in the minds of us Chinese people. But during the Anti-Japanese War, when we Chinese killed Japanese invaders on the Great Wall, would the Japanese invaders find it beautiful? Zheng Yuxi: So everyone agrees on the majestic beauty of the Great Wall. Chairman: I would like to invite the free men of both parties to make their second speech. Hu Jianbiao: The other student has only two arguments. The first is to explain why everyone has different feelings of beauty. Only by saying that beauty is a subjective feeling can we explain it. The second argument is why this is beautiful and that is ugly. Beauty can only be explained if it is a subjective feeling. Today we basically cannot feel the cold of the Arctic, but can we say that this cold does not exist? Because the feelings of cold and cold are different. If the opposing debater still mixes the feeling of coldness with coldness, is this going off topic? Tan Qi: If beauty and the feeling of beauty are not objectively unified, then when beauty reflects objective existence, there must be right and wrong, true and false. But we have talked about so many angles of beauty and appreciation of beauty. Can you tell me which one is right? Yes, which one is wrong? Talking subjectively and objectively with the other party, why not come up with a specific objective example and ask the other party's debate partner (Tan Qi held up a rose), in everyone's eyes, is this the same flower, but in everyone's heart, are there different ones? The feeling of beauty? A sad person will say, "I feel the flowers burst into tears"; a happy person will say, "The flowers smile at me"; a haggard person will say, "A person is thinner than a yellow flower"; an appreciative person will say, "The peach blossoms complement each other's face." ; Some people say that flowers are sentimental, as the saying goes, "Falling red is not a heartless thing, it turns into spring mud to protect the flowers." Some people say that flowers are heartless, "the wild catkins dance with the wind, and the thin peach blossoms chase the water." What is fate? "The flowers are similar every year, but the people are different every year"; objectively, "the flowers float and the water flows", but subjectively, it is "one kind of lovesickness, two places of idle sorrow". Chairman: Please give the concluding statement of the third defense of the opposing side. Lu Yiming: Under the other party's eloquence, not only can't it be self-satisfied, but there are also some very obvious flaws. The basis of the first opponent's argument is simply that beauty can exist apart from people's subjective consciousness. Therefore, the opponent's free man told us that when this book of Tang poetry goes abroad, even if this person has not read it, he will think it is beautiful. If this book No one has ever read Tang poetry. Does anyone think it is beautiful? I would like to ask, if no one in the second argument of the other party appreciates her, does anyone think she is beautiful? In fact, what the other party is arguing is that beauty can exist apart from the subjective consciousness of some people. That is because other people subjectively think it is beautiful. We know that we have never seen what Xi Shi and Diao Chan look like. Why do people think of beauty when they mention Xi Shi and Diao Chan? That's because beauty is a word of mouth passed down from people, and it is subjective and universal.

Secondly, the other party confuses beauty and goodness. The other party also says that beauty and ugliness can be unified, which means that beauty can have an effect independent of human will, so it should have an impact on people. However, If we don't feel beautiful, what effect does it have on us, and where is its beautiful effect? Below I summarize my views. First, objectively existing things will appear beautiful only when they are integrated with subjective imagination and emotion. From mountains and rivers to flowers, birds, fish and insects, from spring, summer, autumn and winter to wind, rain and fog, we see that objective things are not based on human subjective consciousness. What is transferred is just as the saying goes, "Everything in heaven is permanent, and it will not exist for Yao, nor will it perish for Jie." Second, we believe that aesthetic standards and results do not differ because of people’s objective life experiences and cultural backgrounds. We all know that many people like Venus statues, which are popular in the Western world, but we Chinese old ladies must Sew a waistcoat for her so that she can feel at ease. The King of Chu had a slim waist, and the Emperor of Tang had a plump waist, so in the eyes of lovers, the other person would be as beautiful as a beauty. Beauty actually comes from people's subjective imagination and inner emotions, and it is people who use objective things to express the warmth and warmth of human feelings. Third, we emphasize that beauty is people's subjective feeling, because it reflects people's value belief in pursuing freedom. The human body is subject to objectivity, so the human spirit pursues unlimited space for galloping. We love life, because the story of life spans five thousand years and makes people imagine; we love nature, because "all kinds of frost and sky compete for freedom", which is a tribute to life. To sum up, we believe that there is no right or wrong in beauty or ugliness, and there is no debate about aesthetics. Therefore, we emphasize that beauty is a symbol of freedom. Only our debate friends from five continents can sing a song with a broad mind: A heart like the sea, moved Between heaven and earth, thank you! Chairman: Please give the affirmative three concluding remarks. He Xiaowei: After thanking the other party for his eloquent speech, I still have to point out that one of the mistakes made by the other party is to go off topic. What the other party told us today is always about how people appreciate things and whether they think this thing is beautiful. But is this the topic we want to discuss today? Today we talk about whether beauty is a subjective feeling or an objective existence. What we are talking about is what form beauty exists in. However, the flowers and various things the other party cited today are all about how people appreciate beauty, not the topic we want to discuss today. Today, the other party told us that beauty and kindness cannot be reconciled, but what do we see? Many people have inner beauty. Could it be that the other party says that these inner beauties are not good, and are these goods not beautiful? The other party also said that many people have different aesthetic perspectives, but this is not what we want to discuss! In fact, beauty is a law, a law that exists objectively and is independent of human subjective consciousness. First of all, beauty is figurative. Hegel said: Beauty exists in the intermediary of images, whether it is the beauty of lotus harvesting in the south of the Yangtze River in nature, the beauty of sacrificing one's life to save others in society, or in art "asking you how much sorrow you can have is like spring water in a river" The beauty of "Flowing East", these various specific forms, are the image of beauty. Secondly, beauty is contagious. It may make us feel sad, sighing endlessly in "the uncertainty of life and death for ten years"; it may make us awe-inspiring and admire us greatly while "leaving a loyal heart to reflect history", and This power is precisely because it allows the objectively existing beauty to continue to linger in people's minds. Third, beauty is utilitarian. Human nature drives people to pursue beautiful things, and beauty is what makes people feel happy. "Bai Xue" is beautiful, and so is "Xialiba people". They are both beautiful because they meet the needs of different people. These three laws exist outside of people's subjective feelings and are not controlled by people's subjective feelings. At the same time, the existence of the laws itself proves that beauty exists objectively. In fact, due to differences in cultivation, experience, historical conditions, and social conditions, everyone's aesthetic ability is different. Therefore, beauty has relative beauty. However, the other party cannot confuse aesthetics with beauty because of this! Thinking that beauty is a subjective feeling completely denies the objective existence of beauty and reverses the relationship between beauty and beauty. Rodin once told us: Beauty is everywhere, and our eyes are not lacking in beauty, but Discovery is missing. Thanks! Chairman: I would like to invite the guest commentator, the famous scholar Mr. Yu Qiuyu. Yu Qiuyu: Hello everyone! I am very happy to be a commentator for this final. Today's question is very difficult, the difficulty lies in three points. First, this is an eternal problem. The other topics in the debate, whether it is the Internet, computers, or the knowledge economy, are all happening in this century. It can be said that many wise minds in human history have thought about this issue. Well, I believe that this is just a matter of recalling or reviewing the wonderful words of our predecessors. Secondly, it is obvious that the positions of both parties are one-sided. I believe that no one on both sides thinks that all beauty in the world is subjective or objective, so they have to deliberately set up their own one-sidedness. What we have to do is to expose the other's one-sidedness from our own standpoint and cover up our own shortcomings. This is a problem. A kind of snickering attitude deep in the heart, but the words must be righteous; the third difficulty is that although we are discussing beauty, its form is not beautiful, because the scope of beauty is too large and involves many logical connotations and extensions, so we Such a TV debate with tens of millions of viewers must find his emotional events, that is, examples, and such examples often come from multiple perspectives for the arguer.

The positions stated by both parties are correct, and one free person immediately pointed out that the point of the needle and the subjective feeling of being pricked by the needle are two different things, which separates the objectivity of beauty from the feeling of beauty. The other party clearly stated whether the beauty of ghosts is beautiful, which indicates that part of the beauty does not exist objectively. Following such a clear idea, it can be said that it is step by step. Wonderful passages often appear, especially the second argument for the affirmative and the personal experience of saying whether your face is beautiful. This is a very interesting example. The second argument for the negative says that you are beautiful. But you are allowed to say that you are not beautiful, and then the second argument of the affirmative is that even if some people say that I am not beautiful, I am still me. During this process, the free people for the affirmative, the free people for the negative, and the three debaters all performed very well. Some of their statements have reached a touching level. I think everyone can feel the beauty of this. But there are also some problems, some of which are common to everyone. One is that the concepts involved are too complex. In the process of postponement, many concepts have many logical problems in their application, and both parties may stay at the superficial level without going deeper. If the two parties Compared with the team, Zhengfang was not well prepared aesthetically and made some unnecessary fundamental mistakes. For example, when he used the relationship between flowers, cats and dogs to demonstrate the relationship between beauty, he broke away from the relationship between man and beauty. This is aesthetically wrong. It's a big taboo, and it just provides the opponent with a target.

We know that when discussing the topic of "Where is beauty?" it is more important to know why the external world gives people the form of beauty and why people find such forms pleasing to the eye. This is the focus of beauty that we constantly think about. Objective existence and Subjective feelings cannot be called real opponents in the field of beauty or in the field of life. Our real opponent is to contend with ugliness from the standpoint of beauty for a long time. Thank you everyone! y