Ming Yi recorded Yuan Jun's translation in an interview.

From the beginning of human society, people are selfish. No one set up what is beneficial to the public in society, and no one removed what is harmful to the public. There is such a person who does not take his own interests as interests, but let the whole world get his interests; Don't treat your own disaster as a disaster, let the whole world avoid his disaster. That man's efforts must be ten million times that of the whole world. It is certainly not the wish of ordinary people in the world to spend thousands of times of effort but not enjoy the benefits. Therefore, it is Xu You, Guangwu and other countries that are unwilling to be in place after consideration. Yao, Shun and others are in place, but out of place; It was Dayu who didn't want to be in place at first, but finally failed to leave. Is there a difference between ancient people? I like ease and hate work, just like ordinary people.

That's not how future generations become kings. They think that all the interests and power in the world come from themselves. I attribute all the interests in the world to myself and all the evils in the world to others. There is nothing wrong. Let people in the world dare not be selfish, dare not be selfish, and regard their own self-interest as the public interest of the world. At first, I was ashamed of it, but after a long time, I felt at ease. I regard the world as a huge industry and pass it on to my descendants, enjoying it endlessly. As Emperor Gaozu said, "Who has achieved more in my industry than my second brother?" His pursuit of interests has been unconsciously revealed in his words.

There is no other reason for this. In ancient times, the world was the mainstay and the monarch was the guest. Everything the monarch manages is for the whole world. Now we are king-oriented, and the world is our guest. For the monarch, there is no place in the world where peace can be achieved. So when he couldn't get the world, he made people everywhere and scattered them all over the world to increase his industry. He also said, "I started a business for my children." He won the world, blackmailed everyone's bone marrow, scattered their children to worship their own dissolute pleasures, and took it for granted that "these are the interests of my industry." In this case, as the biggest scourge in the world, it is only the monarch! At the beginning, if there was no monarch, the people could get their own things and the people could get their own interests. Alas! Is this the reason for establishing a monarch?

In ancient times, people loved their monarch, and it is not too much to compare him to his father. Nowadays, everyone in the world hates their monarch, regards him as an enemy and calls him a "single husband", which he deserves. However, the small Confucianism believes that the relationship between monarch and minister exists between heaven and earth and is difficult to escape. Even as cruel as Xia Jie and Yin Zhou, he even said that Shang Tang and Zhou Wuwang should not kill them, but fabricated something that spread to Boyi and Shu Qi, and regarded the deaths of thousands of ordinary people in Qian Qian as no different from the deaths of mice. Is it true that the world is so big, but among the tens of millions of people in Qian Qian, only one monarch is preferred? So Zhou Wuwang is a saint, and Mencius' words are saints' words. Later monarchs who wanted to use his empty name to forbid others to peek at the throne like the father god felt that Mencius' words were not good for them until he abolished Mencius' position of offering sacrifices to Confucius. Isn't this from Confucianism?

Even so, if future generations become monarchs, they can really keep this industry and pass it on forever, and they don't blame him for taking the world as private. Since it is regarded as an industry, others also want to get the idea of an industry. Who doesn't like themselves? So tie it with a rope and reinforce it with a lock, but a person's wisdom and strength can't beat many people who want it in the world. Although there are only a few generations apart, the closest relatives are themselves, and the collapse of their flesh and blood should be on their children and grandchildren. Before the Southern Song Dynasty, Shun Emperor made a wish that future generations would not be reincarnated in the royal family. What Ming said to the princess was "Why did you have to be born in my house!" What a pity! Looking back on the ambition of our ancestors to occupy the world when they started their business, how can we not be depressed? Therefore, if you understand the responsibility as a monarch, then in the era of Tang Yao and Yu Shun, everyone can give up the throne, and Xu You and Guangwu are not extraordinary people; If you don't know the responsibility of being a king, then even among ordinary people, everyone wants to get the throne, and Xu You and Guangwu will disappear from future generations and will not be heard. Although it is difficult to understand the monarch's position, it is not worth exchanging endless sorrow for a moment of debauchery, even the most stupid person can understand this truth.