He three old ladies "The greatest art is only among the people"

Wu Huaiyao: Do you have the habit of reading literary publications? Do you think Poetry Magazine can promote China's new poetry?

He three old ladies: I remember last spring, I met my classmate Yan Lianke in Sanlian Taofen Center. Because I arrived early, I used my leisure time to read almost all literary magazines. I haven't read a magazine for almost 20 years. It seems that old love is reunited and I am very excited. After shaking hands and greeting, my feeling is: how dare she come out and wander around? Too bold.

At that time, I was thinking, whose disaster is literature in broad daylight so unbearable?

The disaster is related to editing. When all editors are stupid enough to believe only in fame and age, literature is almost finished. I can't help but miss the 1980s. After all, there were a few editors who dared to trust young people and liked new gadgets. What about now? China, so big, is lifeless and does not have a decent editor.

Government-run magazines have long been reduced to high-end brothels, which are almost the distribution center of third-rate literati in China and a paradise for mediocre writing. Seeing them, you can easily despair of China literature. As for promotion, it was the Great Tang Dynasty.

Wu Huaiyao: So, on the surface, China literature is all third-rate literature. So, where is the real first-class literature?

Three old ladies He: Please allow me to tell a little joke first. /kloc-in October, I went to Shaanxi. In a small bungalow less than 10 square meter, I met an old man named Shi Jingting. He is the best musician in China. I believe anyone will be amazed when he suddenly sings its bright and light colors in a hoarse and low voice. But such a master can only guard the food and clothing of the family in a simple room. This scene made me both surprised and sad.

The fate of Shi Jingting is actually the fate of our truly first-class literature. It is not in the official magazine, nor in the field of vision of critics. From today's underground magazine, such a fate is doomed. I believe that in this case, in China, the best literature is not rough, and the greatest art is only among the people.

Wu Huaiyao: The "independent spirit and free thought" emphasized by Chen Yinque, an academic master, has basically declined completely in China academic circles, but I found it most fully reflected in poets. Can you talk about your understanding of this sentence?

He three old ladies: In the Garden by the great Persian poet Sadi, there is a passage that basically represents my understanding of freedom and independence: People ask a wise man, "Why is no one free except cypress in the tall crown of beautiful trees planted by God?" The wise man replied that everything has its season, and if it is in season, it will flourish. If it is out of season, it will dry up and wither; Cypress is not one of them. It is always green, independent and free, because its heart never depends on external things. " Compared with others, poets are cypresses and are more likely to be loyal to their hearts.

Wu Huaiyao: I want to ask, who are your favorite poets? Can you tell me the reason why you like them?

He three old ladies: I like too many poets, too numerous to mention. I'm just saying. The deceased were: Tao Qian, Wang Wei, Su Dongpo, Cao Xueqin, Nalan Xingde, Yam, Thoreau and Andrew West, and the living were: Wesley Sneijder, Bly, Munk, Bai Hua, Zhong Ming, Emperor Wen of Sui and Li Yawei. Just like facing a bird, a cloud and a star, you can't tell why you like them.

I like Thoreau's sentence: Time is a fishing river for me. I drink this river. When I drink this river, I see a shallow bottom. The river has run away, but it will never run away. I want to drink water in deeper rivers and fish in the sky. The bottom of the river in the sky is covered with pebbly stars.

Wu Huaiyao: What is the difference between poets and ordinary people? Is writing poetry a poet's patent?

He three old ladies: A good poet may not write poetry. Similarly, a poet is not necessarily a poet. In this way, you can easily understand the relationship between poetry and poets. In addition, I don't want to exaggerate the difference between poets and ordinary people, but Carlyle said, "poets are the glory of the world." I have no objection to this.